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08/20/07

Feeling grateful, saying thank you

Posted by : Sandra Hanks Benoiton in Adoption News Blog at 08:30 am , 598 words, 459 views  
Categories: Op/Ed
Back in the days when I was still allowed to read along on the International Adopt Talk group, a forum primarily for transracial international adoptees now grown and those who care about transracial international adoption ... before they booted me out for addressing an issue of blatant misrepresentation ... I noticed a frequent theme from some of the more strident posters on the list having to do with gratitude.

I've encountered the same tone in other places, in personal blogs most notably, and I'm puzzled about it every time.

There seems to be no little anger expressed whenever the concept of gratitude raises its head in certain neighborhoods of the adoption community, and the tendency often is to rail against not only admitting harboring any in reference to parents, but the very idea that anyone in a family should be thankful to anyone else for anything.

Because I'm not an adoptee, my opinions on gratitude toward parents is not considered worth even the miniscule pressure it takes my fingers to type the words, and the fact that I am someone's child doesn't appear to count.

I have tried to gently broach the concept that even though my childhood was far from perfect, I am thankful to my mother and father for their efforts, for the fact that I'm alive and reasonably healthy, that I learned to read and write and have some ideas of right and wrong.

It seems a natural reaction to have to folks who did the best they could with what they knew and who they were, and since I was fortunate enough to grow up in a home where there was no abuse of any kind that provided food on the table every day, clothing, a couple of bicycles and the occasional special occasion, I have figured since I was old enough to figure such things, that I owed them a debt of gratitude even though they never bought me a horse.

Why something that feels so natural to me should be so repellant to others raised in very similar circumstances is confounding.

In my daily trawling for blog fodder this morning, I came across an article that has me wondering even more why some people are so thanks-resistant. It's from The Ethics Guy, in a piece in BusinessWeek and takes the whole image of gratitude up another level or two.

According to Dr. Bruce Weinstein ... aka "The Ethics Guy" ... gratitude is not simply a issue of manners; fundamentally, he says, saying 'thanks' is a matter of ethics.

It's about respect, he insists -- one way we show it is by acknowledging help, kindness, thoughtfulness ... whatever.

It's not just rude to fail to honor a debt of gratitude. It's wrong.

... saying thanks from the heart is one of the easiest, but most essential, things you can do to maintain and even strengthen your professional and personal relationships.

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I'll admit that I'm free with my thank-yous. They spring from me with little prompting, and I'm as likely to thank my kids for handing me a shoe as I am to write a note of gratitude to the President for backing a measure I see as important. I thank my lucky stars all the time, and tell my husband how much I appreciate him almost every day.

I can no longer thank my father, as he died in 1992, but I let my mom know how grateful I am to her for EVERYTHING often.

Would I not do this if they had adopted me? Would I not want to? Would they deserve my thanks any less?

Yep, I'm puzzled.

Comments, Pingbacks:

Comment from: Heather [Member] Email
Sandra - My husband, an adult adoptee, is very thankful for his parents and all they did for him - not because he was adopted; but for just their love and wanting him to be happy.

As as side note: he grew up in a less than stellar home life - alot of dysfuntion. Bottomline is that they loved him and while he recognizes the problems in his family; he is still thankful. He loves them. Sounds pretty normal to me.
PermalinkPermalink 08/20/07 @ 09:37
Comment from: soblessed [Member] Email
I always wondered about this, too.

I've thanked my parents many times for the things they did, and continue to do, for me. They are important to me and my life is better than it could have been from many, many acts of loving kindness and sacrifice on their part. And so I thank them. What's wrong with that?
PermalinkPermalink 08/20/07 @ 09:41
Comment from: Heather Lowe [Member] Email · http://unplanned-pregnancy.adoptionblogs.com/
I think the reason some adoptees chafe at the gratitude requirement goes back to the fact that they had no choice in the matter. Adults made all the decisions for and about them, which may not have been the decisions they would have preferred. From what I have read, some adopted people resent this lack of control, and they really resent being told to feel grateful about all of it. Gratitude can put you in a subservient position which can be difficult for people with control issues.

As usual, this is just one segment of a population. Plenty of adopted people do feel grateful to one or both families.

Personally, I think parenthood is a choice, and while I love my parents, I don't think I feel particularly grateful to them. They wanted to have kids, and they did. It was a lot of hard work, but I'm not sure why I should applaud them for taking on and doing what they wanted to do.

I definitely don't expect my son to be grateful to me for giving him life or a different family.
PermalinkPermalink 08/20/07 @ 10:16
Comment from: emory77 [Member] Email · http://www.bullcityemorys.blogspot.com
yeah but what if he does say, one day, that he's grateful. Grateful your decision was made, that you didn't just say whatever and harm yourself or him?

Although you don't expect it, what do you think your reaction would be?

*shrugs shoulders* seriously, what if?
PermalinkPermalink 08/20/07 @ 12:40
Comment from: miriam [Member] Email · http://www.growingjwards.blogspot.com
When I first read Heather's comment, I have to say I was respectfully stunned. My family functions more along the "thanks for handing me something, oh and also for caring for me" lines Sandra had described. We're grateful in both directions now that I'm (ostensibly) grown and express it often. If one end lost their gratitude and appreciation of the other, it would signify something gone awry. I hope my son will feel compelled to be grateful to me, and to many others in his life.

Having read Heather's view, though, I wonder if that isn't something taught and passed on within a family: a fundamental difference in worldview. Interesting- this is going to be a topic of conversation in my circle of friends for a while because I'm curious now about whether folks generally feel gratitude toward their family members.
PermalinkPermalink 08/20/07 @ 12:44
Comment from: soblessed [Member] Email
Respectfully, Heather L, I disagree. I realize I am perhaps in the minority, here, but for most kids, I think gratitude can be appropriate.

NO child, adopted or biological, has any choice over to whom they are born, what the experiences of their childhood will be or even if they will be raised well by those who care for them.

All that being said, it's kind of a moot point to TELL someone to be grateful; it only "works" when it's freely given.
PermalinkPermalink 08/20/07 @ 16:22
Comment from: Heather [Member] Email
After I read Heather L's comment I too thought as a bio kid I didn't have any choices along the way either - to be honest, many of those choices weren't mine to make since I was a child.

It's not about thanks for giving me life (as a matter of fact I don't think I have even had that thought pass my mind) - it's about being thankful for their love, caring, experiences, memories, teaching me certain values, etc.

I don't expect my boys (who are adopted) to be grateful, but as a parent it would sure be nice and icing on the cake.
PermalinkPermalink 08/20/07 @ 17:55
Comment from: Sandra Hanks Benoiton [Member] Email · http://international.adoptionblogs.com/
I don't see expressing gratitude as applause, but rather a quiet acknowledgment ... and I don't believe giving thanks takes away power, but that it adds heart.
PermalinkPermalink 08/20/07 @ 22:16
Comment from: Sunbonnet Sue [Member] Email
In our family, we model, feel, and expect an attitude of gratitude. From all members. The people who fail to do so are the ones that miss out, it is their loss. Feeling deeply grateful for, and expressing that gratitude to the ones you love, is an essential part of life. Life is richer for all involved who realize how very fortunate they are to be surrounded with blessings.
PermalinkPermalink 08/21/07 @ 11:33
Comment from: Shell [Member] Email
If a baby were kidnapped from its mother/parents, raised by a wonderful, loving family, people that gave her an education and all kinds of great stuff, then discovers years later that she had been taken from her family....should she be grateful to the family raised raised her?
PermalinkPermalink 08/21/07 @ 19:19
Comment from: AdoptionBlogs Editor [Member] Email · http://editor.adoptionblogs.com
Shell, I hardly think that is what Sandra was referring to in this blog and your comment is a bit out of line.
PermalinkPermalink 08/21/07 @ 19:29
Comment from: Shell [Member] Email
I think is relevant to Sandra's post. Many adoptees discover that they were taken from their mother and family - that their adoption was unethical and/or illegal and their mother did not have a choice to keep her child.

Would this not be very confusing situation for an adopted person to accept and understand? How could an adopted person be grateful or thankful for a family when they discover the truth around their adoption - that they were taken and could have been raised by their own family?
PermalinkPermalink 08/21/07 @ 20:39
Comment from: Sandra Hanks Benoiton [Member] Email · http://international.adoptionblogs.com/
Shell,

Of course, the scenario you describe would present a "confusing situation" for an adopted person and there would most certainly be issues needing to be addressed.

Out-and-out kidnapping does occur in the world and bad things do happen to people, and gratitude may very well not feature in such situations, just as children who suffer abuse or neglect at the hands of parents are well excused from carrying any debt of thanks.

As Lisa pointed out, those extremes are not the focus of this post, but that's not to say they don't exist. It is also not to say that the fact of their existence negates the reason for gratitude in the majority of families.
PermalinkPermalink 08/21/07 @ 21:23
Comment from: soblessed [Member] Email
Shell,

I don't think Sandra was talking about a kidnapped child at all. That is a completely and totally different scenario from adoption and gratitude would be a bizzare and inappropriate demand in that case, obviously.



PermalinkPermalink 08/21/07 @ 22:36
Comment from: Shell [Member] Email
I guess my question would be: when should an adopted person be grateful/thankful for thier adoptive family, or what that family provided for her or him?

We just need to look at the BSE and all the mothers who were forced to surrender, then present-day adoptions where mothers are coerced beyond belief (eg Stephanie Bennett and her baby Evelyn). That child may have a good life (hopefully she will be retunred); and the adopters may provide her with all she needs and more - how will she comes to terms with what happened to her, when she learns how her family tried to get her home? Most adoptees I know go through a "grateful" stage, but it's often irrational, not the standard thankfulness one has for having a good family. It's grateful for being saved, yet no saving was involved or needed.

Do you see what I mean?

Then there are open adoptions where the adopters move away and cut off contact with the mother -that adoptee may alo have a good life - but what happens to being grateful when she/he discovers the truth?
PermalinkPermalink 08/21/07 @ 22:44
Comment from: Sandra Hanks Benoiton [Member] Email · http://international.adoptionblogs.com/
Those having reason to be thankful should be. Those with little or no reason are excused. Since life is rarely simple, most people are grateful for somethings and resentful of others, often toward the same individuals.

It also happens that some people are less ethical, to take the post's point that gratitude is a matter of ethics even more than manners, or more likely to ignore what may be polite as part of a general aggressive stance or to protect a POV that could be compromised by acknowledgment of postitives. That may have little to do with actual circumstances, but rather address a completely different agenda.

Given the environment here on these blogs and the attention and respect paid to triad members' sensitivity to honorifics, I must point out that your use of the word "adopter" is offensive to many, myself included.

"Parents" is the acceptable term ... "adoptive parents" if the stipulation must be made.
PermalinkPermalink 08/21/07 @ 23:36
Comment from: Shell [Member] Email
Sandra, you wrote about adoptees and gratidude and I was responding to that post. Maybe I read it wrong, but I thought you were confused why some adoptees balk at the notion of being grateful or thankful. My response was offering freedback on why that is or might be and how you see that as a potential reason(s) for lack of gratitude.

Is there a page for acceptable terms/language on this site? I looked an can't find one. Not all people find the word adopter offensive. It's a standard and accpeptable title in the UK and many people around the world use it.

Many people find the term birth mother/parents offensive, but I see that it's used here. How do you determine which terms are offensive and which are not?

PermalinkPermalink 08/22/07 @ 05:48
Comment from: AdoptionBlogs Editor [Member] Email · http://editor.adoptionblogs.com
Adoption Glossaries of terms used here can be found in the Editor's Blog:
http://editor.adoptionblogs.com/index.php?cat=2427
PermalinkPermalink 08/22/07 @ 06:13
Comment from: Sandra Hanks Benoiton [Member] Email · http://international.adoptionblogs.com/
Shell,

I see that you have spent some time studying Jenna's post on titles since you posted comments there. I'll have to assume that you took away no little information on how carefully here people address each other and the issue of titles in general, so find your question a bit confounding.

In my experience, those who set out to demean, diminsish or insult use "adopter" in lieu of "parent" or "adoptive parent", and that includes Brits. The word may be in use, but that doesn't make it acceptable or polite.

Personally, I use birth mother ... two words ... at the express request of a birth mother I respect.
PermalinkPermalink 08/22/07 @ 07:22
Comment from: Shell [Member] Email
Who is diminishing or insulting anyone? Adopter is a commonly used term in the adoption community. I'd say with all language every person may be offended by one word or another -that's a choice one makes.

I don't refer to my mother as a birth mother, but that's my choice.... and I certainly wouldn't tell someone they're offending me because they use it. Perhaps that's your experience, but it's your perception, not necessarily what the person was trying to do.

What I was asking for was a policy or set of guidelines of what language is acceptable on these blogs....not a glossary.

Sandra, are you asking me to not use adopter or telling me I can't or I will be forbidden to post here?
PermalinkPermalink 08/22/07 @ 16:47
Comment from: miriam [Member] Email · http://www.growingjwards.blogspot.com
Shell-
Hi. If you were not allowed to use that word, wouldn't your comments have been erased? You used "adopter" in the same sentence that implied a wonderful family (sarcasm, no?) could be complicit in kidnapping and that "many" adoptions are somehow related to this scenario. It seems fair to ask your meaning when you use a word like that, especially in that context. If you weren't aware it is loaded, well, now you are.

FYI, the only reason I've ever seen deletion or banning happen is when the commenter is determined to bait the blogger just because they don't like their POV, and regardless of the topic at hand. Yep, totally FYI.
PermalinkPermalink 08/22/07 @ 18:26
Comment from: Shell [Member] Email
Miriam, I don't see how questioning or commenting to a person's post on a public blog is seen a baiting.

Sandra wrote about adoptees and gratitude - what's the point of having a comments section if people can't share their insight and knowledge on the topic being presented?

And, no, adopter and wonderful in the same sentence was not intended as sarcasm - that is you reading into something that's not there. This is the language I use in the adoption community - it's acceptable and used frequently.

I have read comments here from mothers who don't like the term birth mother - does that mean people are baiting these mothers when this term is used?
PermalinkPermalink 08/22/07 @ 19:36
Comment from: Sandra Hanks Benoiton [Member] Email · http://international.adoptionblogs.com/
"Sandra, are you asking me to not use adopter or telling me I can't or I will be forbidden to post here?"

Sigh ...

Shell,

I find use of the word rude and offensive. Your choice to be either or both on my blog will result in you casting yourself in that light.

Your call.

As for sharing insight and knowledge, feel free.
PermalinkPermalink 08/23/07 @ 01:21
Comment from: Shell [Member] Email
I will not modify the adoption language I use. However, with that said, I am a bit concerned -as I cetianly do not want to be reponsible for or carry around the burden of putting any human being through such emotional turmoil.
PermalinkPermalink 08/23/07 @ 06:11
Comment from: AdoptionBlogs Editor [Member] Email · http://editor.adoptionblogs.com
Thank you, Shell. Your input has been duly noted. Let's move on, shall we?
PermalinkPermalink 08/23/07 @ 06:25
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